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If my article was moved to Draftspace, shouldn't the language that I copied from also be moved?[edit]

You see, I had made a translated page from Russian to English, and it got moved to draftspace. I added every cite there and it was still moved. Therefore, shouldn't the russian version be moved to Draftspace as well? Kxeon (talk) 17:22, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Kxeon: Each language Wikipedia is different and operates by different rules. Something that is acceptable for main space on a foreign language Wikipedia may not be acceptable on the English Wikipedia, because the English Wikipedia has more stringent criteria for inclusion than other language Wikipedias.
If you are referring to Draft:Vitaly Pishchenko, it violates multiple guidelines: WP:CREATIVE, WP:BLP, and WP:GNG. See Wikipedia:Golden rule for an overview of what is required for main space articles here. ~Anachronist (talk) 17:28, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And on top of all that, @Kxeon, I'm afraid there's one more thing - you didn't attribute your translation. Please take a look at Help:Translation. (talk) 17:38, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The other thing to say is, you may well be right. Many (probably all) Wikipedias - including English Wikipedia - have many many substandard articles which, if they were presented for review in en-wiki today, would not be accepted. Unfortunately, few editors are interested in spending the time going through them improving or deleting them. See other stuff exists. ColinFine (talk) 17:58, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And while I'm at it, what about the Ukrainian version? That has no cites AT ALL. Shouldn't that be deleted? Or is the rule just missing from the Ukrainian wikipedia entirely? Kxeon (talk) 20:59, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Kxeon: Same situation. You can try to nominate it for deletion there if you want, and see what happens. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 21:13, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And how would I do that??? Kxeon (talk) 22:02, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Kxeon, English language Teahouse hosts cannot provide detailed instructions about Ukrainian Wikipedia. You will have to read their deletion policies and procedures. Cullen328 (talk) 22:18, 11 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Kxeon, please follow the guidance at uk:ВП:КРВИЛ and uk:ВП:ВИЛ. Mathglot (talk) 01:25, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Content Removal[edit]

I could not understand why my edits to the page Aam Aadmi Party removed. I had added information from reliable sources and that pertains to the topic, although it was critical information. Please restore the information under the Funding section. Rrthakur22 (talk) 14:15, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Pinging Venkat TL in case they'd like to expand upon their edit summary for the edit in question. — Bilorv (talk) 14:54, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Better place for a dicussion would be the Talk page of the article. David notMD (talk) 09:39, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Will this article pass if I submit it for review?[edit]

I want to know Draft:Baqibillah Mishkat Chowdhury Is the article worth submitting for review? Prince Tuhin13 (talk) 15:00, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Prince Tuhin13: the best way to find out, is to submit it for review. There's no harm in getting a "decline" on a submitted Draft; in fact, it can help you by giving you an evaluation by an experienced editor about exactly what needs to be improved. Before you do, though, have a look at Help:Your first article; do *you* think your Draft meets all the recommendations there? If not, go improve it. If yes, submit it! Mathglot (talk) 17:38, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I would clean up the Name and lineage section. It is difficult to understand the writing in that section. If I am understanding the writing and the cited references, this information is mostly about Chandpur, so it might be helpful for a Wikipedia article on Chandpur, but most of it is not needed for an article about a person from Chandpur. Good luck to you! Larry Hockett (Talk) 17:51, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As someone who works on Articles For Creation (i.e. reviewing draft articles) it is close but there is some text that needs work to make it more neutral and read better. Gusfriend (talk) 10:32, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Molang article almostly blanked[edit]


I saw that the Molang article in Wikipedia is almostly blanked leaving just the lead section, plot and series overview (the latter was just simply "

SeasonEpisodesOriginally aired
First airedLast aired

Closed the template to prevent syntax highlighting from acting up. weeklyd3 (block | talk | contributions) 16:43, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Suggested edits aged over 3 months - No response[edit]

Regarding this Talk Page Talk:Software Guard Extensions#Conflict of Interest Edit Request

The article about Intel Software Guard Extensions has a large number of inaccuracies and poor information but as an Intel employee, I cannot edit directly due to a conflict of interest. I submitted a list of edit requests back in April 2022 and it looks like no changes have been made by the editors. When I submitted in April, it said the backlog was 156 edits and now it is 210. Every week we have to dissuade customers about errors they read on Wikipedia about on Intel Software Guard Extension. I am trying to be respectful of the conflict of interest rules and understand Wikipedia is a volunteer effort, but is there any way to get editor attention on this page and get some of this misinformation fixed? Please advise. Thank you! MFJpdxOR (talk) 20:42, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, MFJpdxOR. You should provide reliable sources that are independent of Intel. A Wikipedia article about a company product should not be a company brochure. You have your own website for that. Cullen328 (talk) 20:57, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Also, MFJpdxOR, you need to make the mandatory Paid contributions disclosure. Cullen328 (talk) 21:01, 12 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Cullen328, @MFJpdxOR It seems that this one is tricky, because Intel certainly knows more about how Software Guard Extensions actually work than anyone else. Regarding sources that are independent of Intel, Intel knows the facts. And yes, the temptation is always there for a company to write glowingly about its own products.
Even a write up at Tom's Hardware or a similar site, which could be used as a reference, might be based on info from Intel. We don't want a company brochure, but inaccuracies in technical articles don't help anyone.
Would a paid contributions disclosure, along with edit requests, achieve the objective -- if the edit requests are ever worked on? (talk) 07:45, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello, IP editor. I have owned a successful small business for 29 years and think in my own mind that I have a far deeper understanding of the challenges and opportunities that my small business faces than anyone else. But that stuff simply does not belong on Wikipedia. An acceptable Wikipedia article summarizes what reliable sources that are entirely independent of the topic say about the topic. Unless we are firm and unswerving about sticking to this core principle, the encyclopedia would rapidly devolve to a massive collection of marketing brochures with zero credibility. Intel is perfectly free to express their expertise on their own website. Not here. Cullen328 (talk) 08:23, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Cullen328 I suppose the proper sources need to study the Intel literature and work with the software guard extensions themselves, then write that information up in a reliable publication. I know the guideline... I must have had a momentary lapse of reason. Mea culpa. (talk) 08:46, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How to get Draft AfC Submissions reviewed faster[edit]

I am trying to figure out a way so that Draft AfC submissions can be published to mainspace in less than 4 months. May I know how article review works as well? WikiNarco (talk) 05:17, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@WikiNarco: The review process works the same way everything else on Wikipedia does - a volunteer will get to it when they get to it. There is no formal queue, and reviewers are not assigned to articles. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 05:30, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Your draft Draft:Lucas Lynggaard Tønnesen has not been submitted yet? Theroadislong (talk) 05:39, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Not yet @Theroadislong apparently it didn't fit the guidelines (WP:NOACTOR and WP:GNG). Is there any other source that I can use to fit this criteria? (articles that encompasses this subject is hard to find) WikiNarco (talk) 05:45, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
if sources are hard to find, it is a sure indication that the topic is not yet notable. Theroadislong (talk) 05:57, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello, WikiNarco. Here is how to get an AFC draft accepted quickly. Write your draft about an indisputably notable topic, namely one which has received significant coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources. These need to be sources of such high quality that no reasonable Wikipedia editor would challenge them. Present these sources as clean, well formatted references with complete bibliographic detail. Now, write neutral prose that summarizes what the reliable sources say about the topic and makes it clear why the topic is notable. Add your references inline. Do not try to pad your draft with mediocre references because quality is far more important than quantity. Do not write anything even slightly promotional and do not add endless detail. Be concise but briefly summarize all the main points that the reliable sources make. Drafts like this are accepted rapidly. On the other hand, editors who try to push through puffed up drafts about topics of dubious notability, crammed full of references to unreliable sources, and unreferenced praise or criticism of the topic, should not be surprised that their draft ends up stalled or rejected. Quality over quantity. Cullen328 (talk) 06:21, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks @Cullen328 WikiNarco (talk) 08:37, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It is also worth noting that most drafts are looked at within a week or so and 4 months is generally for the problematic ones. Also AfC averages over 100 submissions a day so the 31 that were submitted 4 months ago are all that is left from over 3,000. Gusfriend (talk) 10:42, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

speedy deletion[edit]

Could somebody give me the link to where I can nominate an article for speedy deletion? Not the rules or a guide or a template or anything like that but the place where I can. I've been looking for more than 45 minutes! Dutchy45 (talk) 05:50, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi @Dutchy45 — there is no place to request speedies (or at least I don't know of one!); you do it by tagging an article individually, using the relevant db template. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 05:55, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
ah, ok thanks. I've already done that. Dutchy45 (talk) 05:58, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Dutchy45 Welcome to Teahouse! I would recommend installing WP:TWINKLE if you haven't already. It simplifies nominating articles for deletion and also notifying the article creator. I noticed many of your edits do not have an Help:Edit summary, which I would strongly encourage to make it easier for people checking a Watch list or in my case, searching for what pages you may have nominated for deletion. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 09:16, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Article pending publishing[edit]

I have written a biography on an existing person. It is now pending review. Could someone here assist with reviewing so that the page goes live? Leo Muzivoreva (talk) 09:44, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Leo Muzivoreva Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. If you have an association with this person, please read about conflict of interest and paid editing for information on required formal disclosures. Declaring paid editing or a paid relationship is a Terms of Use requirement.
I assume you refer to Draft:Abel Tatenda Nyawanhu. It is far from ready to be accepted, as it does not summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the person, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable musician. 331dot (talk) 09:50, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Unlikely to be that draft, which was declined in December after submission and doesn't seem to be currently awaiting re-review. Mike Turnbull (talk) 13:21, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Or are you referring to the content on your user page(which actually is not for drafting an article, but for telling about yourself as an editor). 331dot (talk) 09:52, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Leo Muzivoreva WRONG PLACE! The draft you created on your User page is about to be deleted, with no record of it ever existing. Quickly copy if to off Wikipedia or to your Sandbox if you intend to create an article. Then, use WP:YFA to create and submit a draft. If it is deleted before you are able to transfer it, you can ask the deleting Administrator to help recover it. (Note: If there was a copyright infringement, i.e., content copied from a website, then it cannot be recovered.) David notMD (talk) 14:01, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Note - NONE of the references establish notability. The draft has lots of information about him that is not referenced. All content on living people needs to be verified by references. Referencing individual songs not needed. Delete all APPLE MUSIC refs to the actual songs and albums, which equals all of your references. David notMD (talk) 14:05, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikipedia:Translation/Karasuma Strret[edit]

Hello! Please, delete redirect with mistake, thanks. Станислав Савченко (talk) 10:58, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You have already tagged it for deletion. An admin will most likely delete the page soon. Kpddg (talk) 12:15, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Admin en-wiki, thank you for your deletion and thank you for your help!  Done--Станислав Савченко (talk) 14:39, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Question about WP:BLP and similar in relation to two extensive "crime" list articles[edit]


I was by coincidence made aware of two related, in my view very difficult list articles: List of major crimes in Singapore (2000–present) & List of major crimes in Singapore (before 2000). They both seem to contain a significant amount of "regular" crimes, or crimes where the name of victims and/or perpetrators might reasonably not appear on Wikipedia. I'm not sure about our exact policy as I had yet had little to worry about WP:BLP and similar, so I'd like the input of the expertise frequently to be found around here. I'm especially worried about phrases like "If found guilty", which indicate that the accused (with names given!) are sometimes not yet even convicted.

I'd like to add that we don't have anything remotely similar for other countries, e.g. only listing terrorist incidents and serial killers with their own article for France. -- LordPeterII (talk) 11:11, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Both articles begin with a link to the article Crime in Singapore, which iself starts its lede with "In Singapore, crime rates are some of the lowest in the world."
Perhaps therefore the standard of what constitutes "major" (and indeed 'notable') crimes in Singapore is lower than what might be the case elsewhere.
[Personal disclosure: as a small boy I lived in Singapore for a year – but for chance, the three deaths in the first incident entered for 1965 would have been five, with my mother and myself included.] {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 20:31, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I did some cleanup on the most recent years, removing names of those not convicted and one police shooting as it did not seem to match the theme of page. The Crime in Singapore page could use some love, which would make it clearer whether the lists are needed. Slywriter (talk) 23:49, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Are movie reviews considered reliable if used as a source while creating a celebrity page? PravinGanechari (talk) 15:39, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Movie reviews usually comprise mainly of feedback about the movie, with very little focus on the actor. It may praise their performance, but that is a passing mention. The subject should have significant coverage, which directly addresses them. So though they can be put in an article about a celebrity, I do not think that they can be used to establish notability. Kpddg (talk) 15:52, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
They can be, if they are from a WP:RS. They don't necessarily help they case for WP:N. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:56, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Like many sources, it depends on the depth of coverage of the celebrity in question. If you look at our page WP:RSPS, PravinGanechari and search for the word "film", you'll see how we view individual sources in general. So IMDB is no good but Rotten Tomatoes is usually fine. You can ask about a specific source that does give an in-depth review you are thinking of using at the reliable sources noticeboard. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:58, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hello, PravinGanchari, and welcome to the Teahouse. Others have addressed your question; but (at the risk of sounding pedantic) I want to suggest that you think of the activity you are doing not as "creating a celebrity page" but as "writing an encyclopaedia article about the celebrity". ColinFine (talk) 17:21, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi ColinFine, Vidisha (actress) page has four movie reviews of two movies. I was going to bring that page to Afd as GNG is not passing. So I asked that question ( But now I have found two sources and added them to the page). Thanks for answering the question. PravinGanechari (talk) 02:22, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ardennes Fury is not a True Story![edit]

Why haven't you taken away the category of "World War II films based on actual events" if you are supposed to know that Ardennes Fury is not a True Story?  2600:1700:63D1:630:35F0:E855:146A:3A75 (talk) 18:13, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse! This is a place for new editors to ask questions about editing Wikipedia. Ardennes Fury's poster says that it is based on true events. Even if it is not an accurate depiction, nor was the movie meant to be serious (as it was a mockbuster), it is based on the German Ardennes offensive, so it does belong in the category "World War II films based on actual events". Have a good day/night!
Courtesy link: Ardennes Fury
Asparagusus (interaction) 18:22, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Isn't pretty much any WWII-drama based on actual events? For a certain value of "based" anyway. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:40, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It's a matter of judgement – the Doctor Who episode where River Song tries to assassinate Hitler would require a very low value for "actual events", for example. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 20:35, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Agree, Inglourious Basterds comes to mind. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:37, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If we are looking for well-known World War II films which are pretty far from actual events then I offer Captain America: The First Avenger. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:37, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Not my favorite MCU-film, but still ok. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:23, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I see neither of the films have a "historical accuracy" section, that's comforting. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:27, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Guidance About Giving References For Article[edit]

Hello all there, greetings. Kindly guide me how to give reference for an article what is an SOP for giving reference on wiki article? shahzad 18:55, 13 August 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hussayn.Shahzad (talkcontribs)

Hi Hussayn.Shahzad, welcome to the Teahouse. See Help:Referencing for beginners for some guidance on how to create inline citations, and for some information on the kind of sources reviewers will be looking for. (talk) 20:17, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Hussayn.Shahzad: If you prefer to edit using the Visual Editor, you may find this guidance page of use. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:31, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

reception on Boss Baby: Back in the Crib[edit]

Any good sources on where to find Boss Baby: Back in the Crib? BMA-Nation2020 (talk) 19:37, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi @BMA-Nation2020, welcome to the Teahouse. I think you're asking where to find sources about that series? You can try the following search links: Find sources:  (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS ·  · NYT · WP Library. (talk) 20:22, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Found one. Common Source Media. Does that help? BMA-Nation2020 (talk) 22:35, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
What is "Common Source Media"? is it a website? If so, please give us a URL. The only "Commonsourcemedia" I can find is the name of an Instagram user. If that's who you mean, then no: unless tha user represents an organisation which publishes articles with a reputation for editorial control and fact-checking, then it is not a reliable source. ColinFine (talk) 22:48, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If you meant Common Sense Media, then this discussion on the Reliable sources noticeboard in 2019 doesn't seem to have reached a conclusion about whether it should be regarded as reliable or not. (Note that the last posting there, which says "Generally reliable" is, I think, one of the opinions advanced in the discussion, not the conclusion of the discussion). ColinFine (talk) 22:58, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Template of "Original Research" on "Paul Hartal" article[edit]


We can help with documents, references to improve the Paul Hartal article in Wikipedia. Even in its present state the Original Research template is not justified. Among the available supporting material: Plaque of Appreciation for commissioned design of the 24th Olympic Games (Seoul) sport art album project; award winning Dutch short film based on Paul Hartal's poem, "Subway'.books by noted scientists, Clifford A. Pickover, Moses Feingold on Hartal's notion of time challenging the conventional mainstream theory of time as a flying arrow. We are requesting your help.

Pranek Pranek (talk) 23:19, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Symbol redirect vote2.svg Courtesy link: Paul Hartal
@Pranek: I'm going to remove EVERYTHING that has no source from that article. Do not readd any of it without in-depth, non-routine, independent news/scholarly sources written by identifiable authors and subjected to rigourous fact-checking.Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 23:55, 13 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And with the obvious bographical errors removed, I can see two serious issues: First, what I didn't remove is almost entirely novel synthesis (especially as regards lyrical conceptualism) and second, the article relies far too heavily on Hartal's own writings. None of the sources you offer above are any good (and if anything, gives cause to look at the whole situation here with an eye towards sanctions). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 00:11, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jéské Couriano I'm glad you removed "lyrical conceptualism encapsulates no less a fusion of polarities than the term-amalgams of lyrical expressionism". It makes my head hurt. (talk) 08:55, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Pranek: Welcome to the Teahouse. On a rather unrelated note, I would like to kindly inform you that if you are sharing the account with someone else to please stop doing so, as that contravenes the encyclopedia's sockpuppetry policy. If you have any conflict of interest in regards to Hartal, please disclose that on your user page at User:Pranek. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:13, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Great minds think alike; I dropped a warning to disclose along with the ARBPS alert. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 00:19, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


unable to create my article 2407:1400:AA42:1968:A116:1B17:28C7:F3DE (talk) 01:35, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello. Looking at your contributions, it looks like your only edit was to open this thread. I don't see more edits from the whole /64 CIDR range. So please provide more details about what you were trying to do. Thank you. weeklyd3 (block | talk | contributions) 01:38, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
hi ip user! if you're trying to create an article, I'd suggest you read Reliable sources (which details what reliable sources are, which are essential for an article), Notability (which details what kinds of articles about which subjects can be created), and finally Your first article (which actually goes into detail about how you can create an article). happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 02:07, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Is it possible that you tried to create an article while logged into an account? Or was it Speedy deleted, thus showing no evidence in your history of edits? David notMD (talk) 02:18, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How do i report an IP[edit]

Hello how do you report an IP @ Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring?

I wanted to report an IP for the 3RR violation and edit warring on Amhara people article. However i couldn't report the IP, it showed red. Wanted to this yesterday, then gave up. Saw today more useless edits by this IP. Can someone tell me how to report non users? YonasJH (talk) 09:34, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Just as you'd report anyone else, I think, YonasJH. An IP number isn't a "non user"; they're a user who isn't logged in. Click on the link there that says "Click here to create a new report". You're asked to specify the user. Well, follow "User:" not with a username but instead with the IP number. -- Hoary (talk) 09:54, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
YonasJH, please note that the username showing in red merely means that the user has not created a userpage, which cannot be done as an IP and is optional for registered users. The userlinks template works for IP addresses too, e.g. {{userlinks|}} results in (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 12:39, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Merge two Articles[edit]

Can anyone please help me in merging two articles. The articles are Manju Warrier and Manju Warrier filmography. The article Manju warrier is not big and both the articles can be combined each other. So it will be helpful for the readers also. Also I am trying to make the article by adding citations and making it a good article. Anyone please help me outPaavamjinn (talk) 09:51, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello @Paavamjinn, and welcome to the Teahouse! Personally, I would recommend against merging these two articles (they are actually both quite large, and shouldn't be merged per WP:NOTMERGE, as the resulting article would be rather large). I'd recommend having a good look at WP:MERGE nonetheless, as it has a lot of useful information about merging. Good luck with improving the article, and have a great day! HenryTemplo (talk) 10:31, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I disagree with the proposal to merge those two articles, and add that the separate article listing her awards does not need to be merged either. Readers of Manju Warrier are clearly directed to the other articles if they wish to see details. David notMD (talk) 11:05, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
As for raising the quality from current C-class to nominating it to be a Good article, I recommend checking all the existing references to confirm those are valid, adding references whereever there is a citation needed, or just text without references (quite a bit), also consider cutting, moving text, etc. In my opinion the 2015-present section is far too long. David notMD (talk) 11:13, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

css in userpage[edit]

Hello there,

does anyone if it's possible to change the style sheet of my userpage ? And if yes, how ?

thank you Vincent-vst (talk) 12:05, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I believe this is only possible in the template space. See TemplateStyles. Why are you trying to change the CSS on your userpage? Please remember that distrupting the MediaWiki interface is not allowed, even on userpages. small jars tc 12:18, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
thank you for your answer,
I just wanted to change the styling of my userpage, just for design purpose ... Vincent-vst (talk) 17:50, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Or perhaps are you referring to your common/common.css page, or just changing the design or layout of your userpage? Kpddg (talk) 12:43, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Farhat Abbas Shah[edit]

pride of performance

Extended puffery
Farhat Abbas Shah is one of the most leading distinguished 'and popular poet of Pakistan. He started writing poetry from a very early age. His writings were published in distinguished literary magazines of our country ' Nayarang e khayaal and Nai Qadrian due to its standard of creativity and the poetic force.
His entire work is characterized by excellence in terms of subject, and craft His Urdu poetry books have won paramount acclaim by breaking new ground and held in high esteem by the great critics of our time, who have considered his poetry as a landmark addition to the great tradition of Urdu literature. It is worth mentioning here that his books have been given different awards from time to time.
 Mr. Farhat Abbas shah is a dexterous trendsetter in Punjabi poetry. His punjabi poetry books banners new standards of Punjabi poetry. He is a promoter of social democratic and progressive platform. 
 In the landscape of literature he has brought finest contributions. His books of critical essay and his novel idea of Takhleeqiat Passand Tehreeq was widely appreciated. His work is an emblem piece of art rich in excellence and wisdome. 
 Mr. Farhat Abbas shah has annexed the poetry with phenomenal superior diction and fanciful symbols.

Mr Farhat Abbas Shah has written more than 70 urdu and punjabi poetry books.

His books on new economic theories and policies is another feather in his cap. It is not out of place to mention here that Farhat Abbas Shah, in his poetry has always spoken out not only against wars around the world but also economic injustice poverty reduction and equality in human social rights. Farhat Abbas Shah appears to be the only poet who has translated his economic vision not only into economic theory and microfinance model but also got recognition from an institution like Oxford University by doing practically successful pilot projects. A Book by Farhat Abbas Shah

World Economic Crisis, Analysis And Resolve

Contains details of his poetry being brought into the process of vision.

Mr Farhat Abbas Shah is a distinguished poet. He is a thinker ' social reformer His poetry has been translated into different languages. Mr Farhat Abbas Shah is one of the most popular and noted poet of our country . — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:EA:5725:C00:511F:CF41:785A:C16E (talk) 12:50, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi IP user, welcome to the Teahouse. This is not the place to submit an article - please read and follow the directions at Help:Your first article if you'd like to submit a draft article on Farhat Abbas Shah for review. You will need to provide reliable, independent, secondary sources with significant coverage of him to prove his notability and support your facts. (talk) 14:10, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

District 9 multiple edits[edit]

An IP editor has made around 70 separate sequential edits on this article, all being unexceptional but trivial, and I wonder why. Doug butler (talk) 14:42, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You could ask on their Talk page at User talk: which they might respond to. Or you could just see if their contributions stray into disruptive editing at some point in the future. As far as I can see, this hasn't happened yet, so I'll assume good faith. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:08, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

update page[edit]

I am supposed to leave requests for edits to "Nancy Raabe" at the talk page there, but I don't think anyone sees my request. Nancy Raabe

My update request still stands, and here is an additional cite for that spot. Thank you. DaneCoGuy (talk) 15:24, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi @DaneCoGuy, welcome to the Teahouse. No one is likely to see your request unless you use the {{Request edit}} template or the Edit Request Wizard. Both of those put your request into a queue for the attention of other editors. (talk) 15:28, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Organization - how to?[edit]

How to create a wikipedia page for my organization (talk) 16:40, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply], I strongly recommend not doing so because you would have a Conflict of Interest. However, if you really want to do so, use the Article wizard to submit a draft. weeklyd3 (block | talk | contributions) 16:44, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Also, please be sure that your organization is notable enough for an article, as non-notable articles are frequently declined at Articles for creation or deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. weeklyd3 (block | talk | contributions) 16:46, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And note that, if your organisation does meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, and somebody creates an article about it, the article will not belong to or be controlled by your organisation, will not be for the benefit of your organisation, may contain material that you would prefer it didn't, and should be amost entirely based on what people unconnected with your organisation have chosen to publish about you (favourable or unfavourable) and not on what you or your associates say or want to say. ColinFine (talk) 16:52, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reliable Sources[edit]

I used an in depth film review from Variety Magazine as a reliable source, which I've seen in many Wikipedia articles and would also be accepted at the academic level. The film is by a notable director, as well, with an extensive Wikipedia page. I've seen comparable pages, so I really don't understand why it's not enough. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Draft:America: Land of the FreeKS 2pisces28 (talk) 17:57, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello, 2pisces28, and welcome to the Teahouse. The draft was declined not by "Wikipedia", but by the particular reviewer HenryTemplo. If you don't understand, or disagree with, the decline, the thing to do is ask HenryTemplo to explain. ColinFine (talk) 18:23, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@2pisces28 leave a message at my talk page :) HenryTemplo (talk) 18:49, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I’m looking for someone to write up a Wikipedia on me and my business. Where can I find someone to do this for me? (talk) 19:31, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Most likely you cannot. Take the time to read what's at this link: Wikipedia:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing.
That said, WP:s basic rule for "Should WP have an article about X?" can be read here: WP:GNG. So based on that, what are the 3-5 best sources you know that are at the same time reliably published (WP:RS), independent of you and about you in some detail? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:58, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
FWIW, IP, if anyone offers to write an article about you and your business in exchange for money, they are preying on you. If you or your business are notable, eventually someone will do it for free. Valereee (talk) 20:32, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Like you would ever do that... (and that's a joke, people) Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:35, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I'm free, but I ain't cheap. ;) Ba-dum-tsss. Valereee (talk) 20:50, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
It is not against policy, to hire a paid editor if they disclose it. I have done some paid editing myself with disclosure. The first thing you need to do is determine if you have significant news coverage. You can search or freelancer sites for such service providers, but just make sure they follow the rules and disclose that they are a paid editor. They should be able to tell you if you qualify and should not actually take you on if you do not have much news coverage. Freezejunk (talk) 04:06, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
But remember that no matter how reputable the paid editor, there is no guarantee their text will survive. In the general scheme of things, paid editors are treated with extreme suspicion by everyone else, and at the least hint of promotional writing, everything will get deleted or re-written by an unpaid and possibly unsympathetic editor. Unless your business is notable beyond doubt, a paid article will likely get nominated for deletion. You could easily end up spending your money for nothing. And if an article does appear, your business had better remain squeaky-clean and never have a scandal, because if it does, the scandal may be preserved here for ever. There is a lot to be said for sticking to social media for your advertising. (talk) 08:44, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

generate citation from isbn[edit]

As I recall, at one time I would put only the isbn in a citation, and a bot did the rest. Then I started using OttoBib. Now neither of those methods work.

What is currently the best way to generate a wikipedia citation from an isbn? Comfr (talk) 21:53, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi Comfr. In the source editor, click "Cite" in the toolbar above the edit area, then "Templates" and "cite book". Fill out the ISBN field and click the magnifying glass. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:50, 14 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Actually, there is a template for ISBN, You can also insert Template and search for ISBN, then insert the ISBN number. Freezejunk (talk) 06:25, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Mole's World vs. Mole Manor[edit]

These 2 pages should possibly be merged: Mole's World and Mole Manor. I am not sure how this should be done, whether one of them should be submitted to an AFD or not? What do you think? Freezejunk (talk) 04:00, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

hi @Freezejunk and welcome to the Teahouse! you can read Merging which details how this process works, then you can start a discussion in Proposed merges. absolutely don't delete articles that have been merged, since their history contains information from previous contributors and contributions that would be copied over to the other page, although after being merged you can turn one to a redirect to the other, which also preserves the article history. happy editing! 💜  melecie  talk - 04:52, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, I will propose it on the merge page then. Freezejunk (talk) 06:27, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I use the WikiWho extension, and run into issues where it does not work on many articles, with a notification saying "Failed to retrieve valid WikiWho data." Why does this happen, and is there a way to fix it?

If it helps any, this is an example of an article where WikiWho does not work. TheGEICOgecko (talk) 04:23, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

TheGEICOgecko We can only help you here with editing Wikipedia. To report an error with a third party app you would need to contact them. There is an email address on their webpage. Shantavira|feed me 08:24, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

North Korea: Reliability of sources[edit]

A long while back, I made this RfC on the source Daily NK. In the discussion, we discussed how sources are generally unreliable when it comes to the topic of North Korea due to the country being so closed off, so much so that even reliable sources like New York Times often reports false information on the topic. Here is an excert of the closing admin's remarks:

The Daily NK has been shown to be wrong multiple times; however, it has noticeable WP:USEBYOTHERS by some of our most reliable sources, not to mention the South Korean government, which you'd think would be the most interested ... For the area of North Korea we should treat all sources with a great deal of skepticism ... Certainly we don't use Daily NK alone for information in Wikipedia's voice, but does that mean "don't use" or "use with attribution"? It has to depend on the specific instance. That's not going to be an easy rule to follow, but a) we don't really have the option to write nothing about a nation of 25 million people that regularly makes front page international news, yet b) to be absolutely safe we'd basically have to do that, because there are no good sources. DailyNK seems as good as any, which isn't very. (There are plenty of worse ones!) We are here to present the world's knowledge, and the world talks a lot about North Korea, but what it says is often wrong.

In the discussion, it was brought up that perhaps there should be an addition to policies or guidelines, such that it addresses these specific issues. In particular, if it is the case that there are no reliable sources on something that needs to be covered (in this instance, modern internal affairs of North Korea), generally unreliable sources may be used without attribution, albeit with great caution. Should there be a discussion on making additions to policies or guidelines in regards to this? Or perhaps a different set of actions should be taken? If action should be taken, how would I go about initiating it? TheGEICOgecko (talk) 04:47, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

What's the correct thing to do when someone has requested that an article be improved by translation, but the original has no references?[edit]

The case in question is Appenzeller_string_music. It's been tagged for improvement by translation from the German article, which I would happily do. But the German original is supported by no citations. It's almost certainly accurate and decent text, so I could translate and add a citations needed template, but I don't want to waste my time if someone's simply going to revert all the changes as unsourced. (talk) 08:38, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Each language version of Wikipedia is a separate project, with their own editors and policies. What is acceptable on one version is not necessarily acceptable on another. I don't know if what you speak of is acceptable on the German Wikipedia, but here an article must be supported with citations to reliable sources. 331dot (talk) 08:46, 15 August 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]